@fsf While I completely agree with the suboptimality of this, as (all of) a free software developer, an educator in higher education, and a free software user, the fact of the matter is that there is no free videoconferencing software that works as reliably as several of the commercial solutions (or even reliably _enough_).
I wind up using commercial videoconferencing solutions in a containered jail on my free software operating system to make up for it.
It's up to us to step up to this plate.
Jitsi is the best of the crop that I've tried, but it drops too frequently to be usable for large, professional meetings. It's tolerable for a friendly chat, but even then not if reliability is critical (as I said in another toot, I can't even use it for table top gaming).
@isharefreedom @fsf Jitsi is _absolutely not_ reliable enough for even casual meetings with a handful of people. It has frequent disconnects and many glitches with shared screens/etc. My D&D group has been unable to use it for casual gaming, I absolutely could not use it for dozens of users in an educational setting.
I think what jitsi is doing is great, and it has a lot of potential and many neat properties, but it's not There Yet for professional use.
I'll admit that I've only used the public Jitsi Meet and a Jitsi installed by a friend on a home Internet connection; it may be that an organization could install a workable Jitsi Meet cluster of some sort and fix the problems I have experienced. My sense is that they are client-related, though, from the symptoms.
@Yeldham @isharefreedom @fsf That is indeed interesting. The users with whom I have had less than ideal meetings are across a mix of browsers and platforms, as well, including at least two of us using the Jitsi Meet desktop client on native free software distributions (Debian GNU/Linux in my case, not sure about the other).
What does "pretty much gets the job done" mean? Does it mean no one disconnects and no one loses chunks of the meeting for an entire meeting?
@fsf As I contemplated in my video a few weeks back, on-premieses hosting of Nextcloud or Jitsi for educational institutions would be a great opportunity to even teach a few students on maintaining and administering this type of tech infrastructure instead of just paying some big tech company to do it instead. Especially if it is a government supported educational institution.
after all, it is always better to hire MBAs & accountants to negotiate & track 3rd party proprietary licensing deals than to hire sysadmins to run services /s
@polychrome @fsf I don't know about that, the universities I went to / worked with had large IT stuff, as they are running computer labs, clusters for theoretical physical calculations, have their class administration systems, etc.
As far as I can tell, administering Jitsi or Nextcloud is not really more difficult than running their existing systems. It could also be a project they encourage their CS students to participate in.
Yes, my school is. What's worse, schools are forcing students to use Google and Microsoft accounts. What do these schools think is going to happen to all that data being amassed by these corporations? Data of children, which, I suspect, they value the most because children are the future consumers.
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